we made progress with obama care. there's more we need to do. >> we need to engage and the white house is acknowledging this. do you not go along with the president? >> yes, sometimes i disagree with the president. >> yes, that is true. >> but if we are talking about making medicare more efficient, lowering the cost of prescription drugs to medicare, that's a reform along with their other reforms. >> how about this reform, raising the eligibility for medicare from 65 to 67 over several years? >> no. >> why not? >> why not? because there are working people out there who have have worked 40, 50 years they are in construction, waiters, waitresses and they have worked their entire lives and they are exhausted and they should not be asking to work to 67 to get health care. >> people are living much longer than they were in the '60 when the 65-year limit came into effect. >> if you are looking at people who reached the age of 65, unfortunately, in this country, life expectancy hasn't increased all that much. >> we interview